Comments on: Your 4 Levels of Competency http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/ The Internet's First Blog For Information Marketers Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:57:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Marc Lerner http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18742 Marc Lerner Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:01:58 +0000 http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18742 Alex, I feel there is a beautiful connection between level 3 & 4. The difference lies in one’s focus, for when we focus on our thoughts we are naturally aware of “I”. The flow happens when we step out of the picture & the Wisdom of our Body responds to our stimulus. This is impossible to understand, but easily accomplished when habits are developed. I work with people in a health crisis and in that intensity there is a drive that naturally transcends the limitations of thinking. The “I” can not navigate that inner space, but it is more common than we think. Lovers naturally do it, parents, kids playing and any spiritual moment where our goal is more important than our thoughts. We have the power to consciously condition that super-conscious response for before sleep & upon awakening the door to our sub-conscious is open and there we can consciously create habits. We can create a habit that takes our consciousness beyond thinking and as we enter that flow…the “I” has the ability to reappear to take us to level 3 without thinking about it. People in life threatening situations do that regularly and I think that is a natural part of conscious living. I think when silence becomes our friend; we have the ability to move between levels when ever they serve us. We naturally gravitate to the level that has least resistance. Resistance = when old habits replace conscious preferences. That is when you hang out on level 4 &3 but sometimes 2. Thanks this was a nice exercise, Marc Lerner Alex,
I feel there is a beautiful connection between level 3 & 4. The difference lies in one’s focus, for when we focus on our thoughts we are naturally aware of “I”. The flow happens when we step out of the picture & the Wisdom of our Body responds to our stimulus. This is impossible to understand, but easily accomplished when habits are developed. I work with people in a health crisis and in that intensity there is a drive that naturally transcends the limitations of thinking. The “I” can not navigate that inner space, but it is more common than we think.
Lovers naturally do it, parents, kids playing and any spiritual moment where our goal is more important than our thoughts. We have the power to consciously condition that super-conscious response for before sleep & upon awakening the door to our sub-conscious is open and there we can consciously create habits. We can create a habit that takes our consciousness beyond thinking and as we enter that flow…the “I” has the ability to reappear to take us to level 3 without thinking about it.
People in life threatening situations do that regularly and I think that is a natural part of conscious living. I think when silence becomes our friend; we have the ability to move between levels when ever they serve us. We naturally gravitate to the level that has least resistance. Resistance = when old habits replace conscious preferences. That is when you hang out on level 4 &3 but sometimes 2.
Thanks this was a nice exercise,
Marc Lerner

]]> By: Kim Fredrickson http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18739 Kim Fredrickson Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:48:09 +0000 http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18739 Alex, Loved the presentation...As a Marriage and Family Therapist you are right on as far as the psychology underneath the helpful concepts you are sharing. As always, you present information in a usable,practical way that inspires action and inspiration. Great to see you at the Podcast Secrets Reunion!!! More great content and inspiration! Many Blessings, Kim Fredrickson www.KimsPodcast.com Alex,

Loved the presentation…As a Marriage and Family Therapist you are right on as far as the psychology underneath the helpful concepts you are sharing. As always, you present information in a usable,practical way that inspires action and inspiration.

Great to see you at the Podcast Secrets Reunion!!! More great content and inspiration!

Many Blessings,
Kim Fredrickson
http://www.KimsPodcast.com

]]> By: Jan Peterson http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18731 Jan Peterson Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:11:21 +0000 http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18731 Hi Alex, I agree with your 4 levels of competency. The athletes who are competing in the Beijing Olympics that are outperforming their World competitors have achieved Unconscious Competence. Michael Phelps is a perfect example. I had achieved UC in golf in a shorter time than most people. I focused on the things I was doing right, focused on the target and saw myself completing exactly what I wanted. The whole became greater than the individual parts, and the results were spectacular. I like what Alex says about how doing things well consistently produces extraordinary results...This in combo with knowing what you want and seeing yourself as achieving it helps on the journey to UC. Thanks again for your excellent material Alex! Jan Peterson http://www.IntervalTrainingFitness.com Hi Alex,

I agree with your 4 levels of competency. The athletes who are competing in the Beijing Olympics that are outperforming their World competitors have achieved Unconscious Competence. Michael Phelps is a perfect example.

I had achieved UC in golf in a shorter time than most people. I focused on the things I was doing right, focused on the target and saw myself completing exactly what I wanted. The whole became greater than the individual parts, and the results were spectacular. I like what Alex says about how doing things well consistently produces extraordinary results…This in combo with knowing what you want and seeing yourself as achieving it helps on the journey to UC.

Thanks again for your excellent material Alex!

Jan Peterson
http://www.IntervalTrainingFitness.com

]]> By: Robert Ruiz http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18699 Robert Ruiz Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:32:35 +0000 http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18699 It was difficult to stay focused on the message. Many years as a facilitator for learning and training helped me understand where the message was going. Found the message presented in a way that the choir understands but everyone else is left shrugging, "so?" It was difficult to stay focused on the message.

Many years as a facilitator for learning and training helped me understand where the message was going.

Found the message presented in a way that the choir understands but everyone else is left shrugging, “so?”

]]> By: Betty http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18675 Betty Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:52:06 +0000 http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18675 I tried to was the video but I just doesn't work on Macs. It is a pity. (Running sys 10.5.4 and Firefox 3.0.1 with nothing blocked.) I tried to was the video but I just doesn’t work on Macs. It is a pity. (Running sys 10.5.4 and Firefox 3.0.1 with nothing blocked.)

]]> By: C.Most http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18624 C.Most Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:14:37 +0000 http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18624 Dear Alex: Thanks for this short lesson. Considering the level 3 & 4 perspective was interesting, enlightening and I whole-heartedly agree. Great teachers help shine the light and you've done just that. Best Regards, Dear Alex:

Thanks for this short lesson.
Considering the level 3 & 4 perspective was interesting, enlightening and I whole-heartedly agree.

Great teachers help shine the light and you’ve done just that.

Best Regards,

]]> By: Jen http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18594 Jen Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:38:31 +0000 http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18594 Hi Alex, An old favourite with many personal development trainers and always worth a revisit. For new comers, a useful introduction. I agree with Susan (15th Aug) about the 5th level. It's entirely possible to be in flow while increasing competence, and to be in flow while teaching. For me, that happens best by maintaining an internal 3rd position, a background awareness AT THE SAME TIME as providing context. I think that any competent NLP trainer/modeller could reduce that 25,000 hours by a factor of between 4 and 10, started early in the learning process. That isn't likely to happen though, unless someone is at least a level 2! Thanks for another timely review of an important subject. Jen Hi Alex,

An old favourite with many personal development trainers and always worth a revisit. For new comers, a useful introduction. I agree with Susan (15th Aug) about the 5th level. It’s entirely possible to be in flow while increasing competence, and to be in flow while teaching. For me, that happens best by maintaining an internal 3rd position, a background awareness AT THE SAME TIME as providing context.

I think that any competent NLP trainer/modeller could reduce that 25,000 hours by a factor of between 4 and 10, started early in the learning process. That isn’t likely to happen though, unless someone is at least a level 2!

Thanks for another timely review of an important subject.

Jen

]]> By: Kyle French http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18507 Kyle French Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:07:46 +0000 http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18507 Excellent presentation on an important subject; I happen to agree that the top 1% in any field or endeavor do things on a very high level without thinking about why they do them. You become an expert by doing 5 things 10,000 times. You used an excellent example when you spoke of being unconsciously competent as a driver; we all started off terrified behind the wheel, and now we do things by reflex. Good stuff, Kyle French/ SingleTrack Agent Excellent presentation on an important subject; I happen to agree that the top 1% in any field or endeavor do things on a very high level without thinking about why they do them. You become an expert by doing 5 things 10,000 times. You used an excellent example when you spoke of being unconsciously competent as a driver; we all started off terrified behind the wheel, and now we do things by reflex.

Good stuff,
Kyle French/ SingleTrack Agent

]]> By: Chris King http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18488 Chris King Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:40:47 +0000 http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18488 Alex, Not only was your discussion/video excellent, it has also triggered an incredible number of thought provoking comments. What a great group! I have read them all and am duly impressed. You are a Conciously Competent teacher and marketer. WOW! Chris King Alex,

Not only was your discussion/video excellent, it has also triggered an incredible number of thought provoking comments.

What a great group! I have read them all and am duly impressed. You are a Conciously Competent teacher and marketer.

WOW!

Chris King

]]> By: Curt Graham, M.D. http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18480 Curt Graham, M.D. Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:36:26 +0000 http://www.alexmandossian.com/2008/08/15/your-4-levels-of-competency/#comment-18480 Hello Alex, Your excellent video explaining the four levels of intellectual abilities instantly brought to my mind the usefullness of such a concise presentation. Most well educated or well read people usually know the context of each level you presented in a more diluted way. If this video could be used in our educational system to assist students in understanding such things as --- what talents do I have -- what career should I choose -- what natural instincts do I have and how am I using them, etc. One of the greatest pitfalls in education is not knowing what you want to do or are suited to do in life--like graduating from college and having no idea what you'll be doing the next day. If the true depth of each level of consciousness you present was taught in high school and college, maybe the insight would create a new open world of self-improvement and focused redirection for those students. I'm sure Dietzel, Ricklan, Lakhani, Manning, and a bunch of other teachers would agree (level 3). The value is in teaching others. The price is a non-issue. Curt Graham Hello Alex,

Your excellent video explaining the four levels of intellectual abilities instantly brought to my mind the usefullness of such a concise presentation. Most well educated or well read people usually know the context of each level you presented in a more diluted way.

If this video could be used in our educational system to assist students in understanding such things as — what talents do I have — what career should I choose — what natural instincts do I have and how am I using them, etc.

One of the greatest pitfalls in education is not knowing what you want to do or are suited to do in life–like graduating from college and having no idea what you’ll be doing the next day.

If the true depth of each level of consciousness you present was taught in high school and college, maybe the insight would create a new open world of self-improvement and focused redirection for those students.

I’m sure Dietzel, Ricklan, Lakhani, Manning, and a bunch of other teachers would agree (level 3).

The value is in teaching others. The price is a non-issue.

Curt Graham

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